Now what do you think, Vasettha... is Brahma in possession of wives and wealth, or is he not?" "He is not, Gotama." "Is his mind full of anger, or free from anger?" "Free from anger, Gotama." "Is his mind full of malice, or free from malice?" "Free from malice, Gotama." "Is his mind tarnished, or is it pure?" "It is pure, Gotama." "Has he self-mastery, or has he not?" "He has, Gotama." "Now what do you think, Vasettha, are the brahmins versed in the Vedas in possession of wives and wealth, or are they not?" "They are, Gotama." "Have they anger in their hearts, or have they not?" "They have, Gotama." "Do they bear malice, or do they not?" "They do, Gotama." "Are they pure in heart, or are they not?" "They are not, Gotama." "Have they self-mastery, or have they not?" "They have not, Gotama." "Can there, then, be agreement and likeness between the brahmins with their wives and property, and Brahma, who has none of these things?" "Certainly not, Gotama!" "Then that these brahmins versed in the Vedas, who also live married and wealthy, should after death, when the body is dissolved, become united with Brahma, who has none of these things--such a condition of things is impossible!"... "Now what do you think, Vasettha, will the bhikkhu who lives [according to the Dhamma] be in possession of women and of wealth, or will he not?" "He will not, Gotama!" "Will he be full of anger, or free from anger?" "He will be free from anger, Gotama!" "Will his mind be full of malice, or free from malice?" "Free from malice, Gotama!" "Will his mind be tarnished, or pure?" "It will be pure, Gotama!" "Will he have self-mastery, or will he not?" "Surely he will, Gotama!" "Then as you say, the bhikkhu is free from household and worldly cares, free from anger, free from malice, pure in mind, and master of himself; and Brahma also is free from household and worldly cares, free from anger, free from malice, pure in mind, and master of himself. Is there then agreement and likeness between the bhikkhu and Brahma?" "There is, Gotama!" "Then verily, that the bhikkhu who is free from household cares should after death, when the body is dissolved, become united with Brahma, who is the same--such a condition of things is in every way possible!"

(Buddha Sakyamuni)



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